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- Network Working Group M. A. Padlipsky
- Request for Comments: 967 Mitre Corporation
- December 1985
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- All Victims Together
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- STATUS OF THIS MEMO
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- This RFC notes a significant omission from the networking literature
- and proposes to remedy it. Distribution of this memo is unlimited.
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- DISCUSSION
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- An interesting thing happened the other day. Some people were up
- visiting from IBM Federal Systems Division and, during the course of
- the conversation, one of them pointed out that they had just as much
- if not more trouble with the operating system purveyors about making
- OS "changes" in behalf of networking as anyone else. At the time I
- just observed that it looked as if we were all victims together and
- went on to the next point, but further reflection prompts me to offer
- a few thoughts on the topic to the RFC community:
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- o To us, it's axiomatic that networking code is system code when it
- has to be.
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- o To Them, it's anathema.
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- o We haven't really hit very hard on the point in the literature
- (although I guess I have made a few strong assertions along those
- lines, here and there, and it's at least implicit in some of Dave
- Clark's stuff), unless in my usual slipshod fashion I've just
- missed seeing it.
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- o It would probably be responsible of us to rectify the omission
- (assuming there is one) since the literature is supposed to be
- the way the researchers educate the practioners.
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- o Therefore, I propose a new subseries of RFCs on how the
- networking code was integrated with various OSs, with an eye
- toward subsequent publication of the collection in the open
- literature (RFCs being only semi-open, after all). I'll even
- volunteer to coordinate, at least to the extent of taking offers
- from people who are willing to tackle various systems and telling
- them who else is having a bash at the same one for purposes of
- possible collaboration--and possibly even merging the results of
- separate efforts if people just send in things they've already
- done. (I suppose I even have to offer to do a bit of editing, if
- people want.)
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- RFC 967 December 1985
- All Victims Together
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- What I'd like to see emerge is a bunch of little essays along the
- lines of what I attempted to do on Multics in RFC 928, pp.14-21,
- which would probably be a waste of electrons to reproduce here, but I
- will if Jon thinks it's worthwhile at some level. With luck,
- volunteers will emerge to discuss all of the major operating systems
- currently on the net and most of the minor ones as well, since one of
- the most interesting philosophical aspects of the exercise is to see
- just what cuts and pastes get made to any OS if it's networked. My
- guess is that given more modern systems' tendencies to make adding
- device drivers more straightforward and to offer interprocess
- communication primitives at the system level, the likeliest
- difficulties to encounter would be getting on the process creation
- path appropriately for Telnet--but that's reasoning ahead of the
- data. Suffice it to say that each piece should address Host-Host
- protocol interpreter(s) integration as well as Host-Comm Subnet
- Processor PI (including device driver, if one), plus something about
- Telnet and something else about FTP (at least to the extent of
- whether it's per-user or "monolithic"--on the server side, that is),
- and, of course, some relevant anatomizing of the OS itself.
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- The moral, it seems to me, is that we have a chance to strike back at
- the oppressors by showing them what they should be furnishing with
- their silly off-the-rack systems if they are going to continue to
- object to our alterations to make the bloody things fit anywhere near
- right. It's a little extra effort on our part, but it's probably a
- worthy goal. Indeed, if anybody from IPTO is watching I suppose I'd
- even go so far as to suggest a pro tem System Integration Task force
- if I hadn't already volunteered once in this thing and used up my
- quota.
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- Think about it.
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- EDITOR'S NOTE
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- The editor recalls a session at the 5th Data Communication Symposium
- (the one at Snowbird) titled "Impact of Networks on Host-System
- Design and Architecture". (1977)
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